Goodbye i spose running is better than staying

[Bill]

lol maybe a bit harsh especially as i for one as with i am sure many have a great deal of respect for some of those that have left. Truelly i am sorry to see them go they were all friends and many made me feel very welcome.
On that note I would with open arms welcome many of them back.

BUT MEH it is afteral a game and maybe some of us including those above have forgotten this.
Unlike some things in reality its pretty damn easy to move on

So on that note in reguards to raiding 25 man at least i propose we might try to make a planned front on Zul'amon think thats what its called. Afteral this new raid zone is the supposed crown jewel atm. And with the expansion coming out i feel that we as a giuld may find mastering such a place as good preparation for what surprises may come.
lol i am not much of a leader so i would ask only that peeps post there ideas and if needed where we can look to check out what tactics and things we should do to complete such a challenge.

And you never know with our successes we may bring some family back home.

[Koobar]

in soviet Russia deserters were shot

[Acannaria]

I'm going to be staying and will still be willing to organise raids and enything within the guild.

I assume a lot of other people have left too and there is some uncertainty as to what we're going to do but I still see this guild as a wonderful place and want to get things going again.

We can probably take this time to restructure and refocus our efforts on what we want to do before the next expansion comes out.

I'll be back on this weekend sometime (probably sunday now) and assuming anyone is left we can start putting things back into place.

Thankyou if you are staying through this time of uncertainty, it's appreciated.

I've been through this sort of thing before, all guilds have and hopefully we will get through it and end up stronger with a closer member relationship.

For those that left, I wish you the best and hope you get from the game what you want. Good luck finding another guild and I hope it is as fun to be in as SCAR.

Seeyou all in a couple of days when the panic has hopefully subsided and the rebuilding work can start in full force.

Aca

[Sio]

I guess i'd come under one of the "runners".
Truth be told, that's okay by me.


I'm going to be openly honest about this, it's just as harsh as the title in some aspects but I feel must be said. I can safely assume most of the people leaving share my opinion.


First, the "me" part.

I'm not sure on what happened at the top level to cause all this drama and I sincerely hope Scar will stick around for a long time to come, and even to get back on their feet and into raiding again.

I've made a lot of friends in the guild which I never expected. I joined on a whim one day after an instance with Brad, got my invite from Seth minutes after the run and I was away. And didn't the fun times roll in from there? *grin*

There-in lies the problem. MOST of the friends I made in-guild have headed to another place. There's a whole heap of people who understand me when I say they're in-game friends, hell, for the closest of us there's even a private channel setup outside of scar to chat away.


Now the "harsh" part.

I understand that most of the people leaving leaves Scar's raiding in a shamble. Lets face it, tanks, healers and DPS have left, all the top of their game (in general). But at the end of the day, Scar was supposed to be a casual guild that occasionally raided.

It got to the point in guild that raiding was the be-all-end-all. Raids were taking place just about every day, people were WANTING to raid every day, people doing their best for the guild day in day out with pots, attendance and other oddities which took away the casual side for a lot of people. This I beleive was the turning point.

Most of the people whom have moved on built Scars raiding, they put in the hard yards, they put in the effort and time but it seemed fruitless, raids became more about other people than having fun and learning new content. People who were at the top of their game and wanted more weren't able to as they were needed to get other people on the same level. There's only so many times one can run an instance for little more than a repair bill.

The above may seem self-centered, but ask anyone who has put the time, effort and gold (money) into their character, only to have to waste their time on someone that won't do the same. Sure, Kara was fun the first 20 times I was there, but when it stops being fun and you're paying REAL money (subscription fee each month) JUST for other people it gets a little much.

Myself and the others whom have left are generally raiders at heart. Raiders go in, kill stuff, move onto the next challenge. It's unfortunate, but Scar seems to be stuck in kara because people can't, or won't put in the extra effort. Be it tailoring, engineering, blacksmithing, enchanting, alchemy etc.. some people won't put in the hard yards and expect everything to be handed to them. And if I recall correctly, 'Window' was exactly this and removed - he was just the loudest.

Last night was a sad night indeed. Caused me great confusion between staying or going, but for me, I think i've made the right choice. I'm going to somewhere I hope I can have fun while raiding, sure, they might not be as easy to talk to as most Scar members and there may be some conflicts of interest, but at the end of the day, I want to raid, not hold people's hands to gear them up.


Thank you for the great times i've had. I have no hard feelings toward anyone and wish you all the best in whichever direction the leaders decide to take . And just because I don't have the tag doesn't mean I won't chat. You're all great people and can drop me a line anytime.

Thanks,
- Sio




P.S. I was going to add a TL;DR version, but I feel it best for people to read my entire thoughts rather than judge my words on a cut-down version.

[Bill]

Thanks Sio and all the best.
And no you were not harsh there are some very valid points in what you say, afteral i am 1 who always ensures i am equiped and ready even have extra for the raids we do. As for Kara i am 1 who really only benifits from growing rep and badges often a run will cost me in mats and repairs, but i do it for practice and the joy of success.

One small thing though I understand peeps taking thier mains to another giuld that raids on a more frequent basis what i do not understand is why the alts as well. To me when a person does that they are not leaving just cause they want to raid more they are abandonning.
I personally would like to remain friends with many who have left, but wander if when they abandon alts and all if they are really being honest with themselves as much as with the people they call friends.
Mains ok goodluck and i hope we may adventure again laugh and joke.
Mains and alts well if you are really just abandoning Scar ie running away then np farewell, maybe we will bump into each other on our travels who knows. As for luck well if you abandon once, you will again so sad for some to be so serious in a fantasy.
And thats still not harsh in my books afteral i don't abandon friends.

[Gorina]

hi all a lot of you may not know me because i don't get on a great deal but brub and gorina are not going anywhere.
i will try get on a bit more and help out although i am only dps/cc.
i wasn't sure about putting in the usual food that i put in the bank it looks a bit empty at the moment .
as i said i will help out anyway i can

[Msagro]

I am in the same boat as sio, and totally understand where he is coming from, and my reasons for leaving were prety much the same, mainly because of confusion...have friends going in many different directions i found hard, and i got weak and dropped when i didn't think i would....funny how a game can really get to u...then again i didnt think id make such great friends in a online game as I did ;)

As for my alts leaving, wasn't cause i wanted to abandon you guys...not at all....simply just upset and wanted sumtime to get over it all (was hard having to deal with stuff as i remained online for a few days after it all happened and yeah got bit too much..kinda just cracked) and I also wanted to wake up to the fact that this is just a game at the end of the day (which i have now after 3 weeks lol). I have a hard time whether its reality or ingame dealing with big changes, so please dont take anything personal. Im just a crazy girl :P

Thank you for taking elexa back, if anyone has any issues with having her back in the guild let me know, I'l step out if there's a problem. Just missed many of you in there and scars fabulous atmosphere, and wanted to still be able to help out when i can. Even tho my main isnt in there, Scar is still important to me....a tag doesnt change that, just want to explore new things and and have fun with the game too. (gosh sounds like a break up :P)
(im a wee bit drunk atm so soz if this doesnt make much sense :P)

Anyhoos ummmz Mwahz

[Koobar]

msa u bloody pisshead ;P

your always welcome back as far as im concerned :)

:D

[Msagro]

awww fanx kooobs :D

wine hits u like a truck not my fault :P